jeusus:

We only said goodbye with words

I died a hundred times

You go back to her

And I go back to

Black

Bar owner Hux, on his good nights, sometimes goes on the stage to sing. Ben hears something akin to a siren call and enters while Hux is singing Back to Black and he feels the proverbial arrow pierce and shatter his heart.

Hux is wearing dark grey dress pants, a crisp white shirt and a black vest and his forearms are covered in black tattoos. He sings while looking far ahead, as if he’s not in this bar, or even in this moment in time.

eirlystylluan:

wirsinddieranters:

I wrote this, and I thought to myself that if I’ve gotten complaints from giving Hange female pronouns, complaints from my rant about the fandom focusing too much on AUs and ships rather than the actual story, complaints about my explanation on why Annie is not a complete sadistic psycho, and complaints about how I’ve said that Hange enjoys her experiments, I’m going to say this for all the Eruri fans who I have a feeling will tell me I’m being offensive:

You can portray things however you want. This is my opinion, drawn from the facts that I have seen.

Onto the meta:

I’ve said things on my personal and Hange roleplaying blog—and maybe on here? I can’t remember—that makes me think that people think I despise Eruri as a ship. People seem to think that I’m insulting Eruri and downplaying their relationship every time I say how Hange is more of Erwin’s right hand than Levi, and how Levi definitely does not have absolute trust in Erwin.

But really, it’s just that I personally feel that the fandom as a whole seems to misinterpret their relationship. And I blame the interviews and whatnot from the spin-off (which was NOT written by Isayama, only thumbs-upped, and I’ll get to that in a second) for their portrayal of Levi being hilariously protective of Erwin and the type to follow him to the ends of the earth.

And we’ve not been shown any of that kind of behavior in the manga.

It’s clear by how Levi talks about Erwin that he doesn’t hate him, and holds a level of respect for him. And just with how they are on a first-name basis, it proves they’re close. However, the same can be said with the relationship in between any of the four senior Scouts; Erwin, Hange, Mike, and Levi all are on a first-name basis and trust each other immensely, despite differences in personality and ranks.

However, Levi does not have the absolute trust in Erwin that the fandom seems to think he does. Whenever we see Erwin give Levi a direct order, Levi actually questions it. We’ve seen it happen multiple times already; Erwin will tell him to do something, Levi will argue against it, and only listen after Erwin tells him again. This is not ‘complete trust.’ And the fact that after he did what he was told and refilled his swords and gas, he said the words ’I’ll trust your judgement on this one,’ it implies Levi has had times where he doesn’t trust Erwin’s judgement at all and goes against what he’s told. That isn’t the behavior of someone who has complete and undying trust in another.

That portrayal stems back to the things revolving around the spin-off, A Choice With No Regrets. That is, the spin-off itself, and the things they did to promote it, including interviews. The thing is, the writer is not Isayama— it’s a man named Gan Sunaaku. The spin-off is only thumbs-upped by Isayama, and while that’s great, it’s still a manga that should be taken with a grain of salt, because they’ve already made mistakes. One of them particularly being that Erwin was not a Commander five years ago; the man who later became the one who trained the 104th was Commander. However, in the spin-off, Erwin seems to already be Commander, as he has the bolo tie that is a sign of his rank, something he did not have when he was shown five years back. It’s an continuation error, and the only explanation could be ‘Levi hadn’t joined yet,‘ which doesn’t work, because it was stated in the FTT arc that he was one of the soldiers that survived the fall of Wall Maria, along with Mike and Hange. 

It serves as proof that the spin-off should be taken lightly rather than a rock-hard example of Levi and Erwin’s relationship, and that to be considered entirely canon, it should be more than just ‘thumbs-upped’ by Isayama. That Erwin and Levi’s relationship should not be described from the fandom as what happens in work that is not Isayama’s, but in the work that is his— the work that shows a relationship that is more complex than just an over-the-top protectiveness and unwavering trust.

Simply put, there is a difference between disliking a ship, and disliking what I find an inaccurate portrayal of a relationship.

EDIT: Another mistake this spin-off has, that proves Isayama is not actively involved in it and thus should be, again, taken with a grain of salt, is that Levi seems to know how to use the 3DMG, an INCREDIBLY difficult tool to use, without training.

Maybe this will be explained away later, but as of now, it asks an important question: The spin-off is thumbs-upped, sure, but just how canon should it be considered, when it goes against established canon multiple times in the single 12 pages that it has?

An analysis written with a sharp critical eye, but there are a few things that I need to elaborate on here.

・”I’ll trust your judgment on this one”

The first one is a correction: as the result of off-the-mark translation, Levi’s “I’ll trust your judgment on this one” cannot be used as evidence in this argument. The original line, as far as I know, only indicated that he said “I’ll trust your judgment” [お前の判断を信じよう]. The “on this one” is likely added to smoothen the sentence, since I don’t see any trace of it in the actual thing.

・”Complete Trust”

The other thing is a counterargument to the concept of ‘absolute trust’ that is presented in this meta. I will not deny that the fandom, and the shippers in particular, do tend to stress the aspects of loyalty and trust very very much in this ship, and do not shy away from outright skewing it far beyond what the canon presented. But then again, which fandom doesn’t do that? Ships in particular suffer from this problem a lot—exaggeration is more the rule than the exception there. But that’s beside the point—what I want to bring up here is the problem with the OP’s definition of the concept. Apparently ‘absolute trust’ means blindly following whatever the other guy said while killing your own sense of reason. While I can’t say that this isn’t what people sometimes refer to to as absolute trust, I beg to disagree—calling this behaviour ‘absolute obedience’ would have been more appropriate. 

This is where the mistake occurred. The example given by the OP is a perfect demonstration of how Levi doesn’t always just mindlessly take orders from Erwin. In fact I think he never does—he’s not the type to do so. Taking this one instance, Levi initially questions Erwin’s order—why do you think he did that? Now, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that Levi isn’t stupid; he’s got his own brain, he can think well enough for himself. If he doesn’t find Erwin’s order sensible, of course he’s going to want an explanation. Trust or not, that’s what people naturally do when they don’t understand something. But as is already mentioned, Erwin just tells him to obey, after which Levi agrees to do as he’s told.

Now focus on this section really closely. Erwin gives an order. Levi doesn’t understand why he had to follow it when there’s no need for it; he asks. Erwin tells him to go and do it anyway—now hold it right there. Look at the Commander. What was going on in his head? He just figured out that the Female Titan might still be around. This is likely why he told Levi to go resupply his gear. If he explained all that (and notice that he has no reason not to), Levi will definitely understand why that order was given and go do as he’s told. But how long is that going to take? Say he starts explaining the whole theory, right there—do they have that much time? No, they don’t. Levi said so himself. So he chose to keep quiet, gave Levi the command and left it at that. 

Now here’s where this anecdote starts working against the initial proposition that it proves Levi doesn’t trust Erwin. How about we see it like this—they know each other well enough. Erwin knows Levi isn’t the type to blindly do things without knowing why. If he just told Levi to do something without telling him the reason, it’s not going to work. But despite that, he went ahead and dropped the order. Now what you need to notice here is that he’s making a bet—if Levi somehow found the lack of explanation too bothersome and started an argument right there, he would probably never have gotten to the escaping Female Titan in time. In short, Erwin counted on the chance that he’s not going to start fussing even if he didn’t tell him why he had to go refill his blades. In other words, he trusts Levi to obey him.

Right on this one’s tail, Levi chooses to settle for the lack of answers and listen to Erwin’s command. Now this again reinforces the same idea—Levi doesn’t know what Erwin’s up to, and he’d much prefer that he does, but as you can see, he still decides to play along even if he’s totally clueless. Now that’s trust. Not one hour before that scene, Levi said that while they can’t control what will happen around them, they can at least decide their own actions and make the choices they won’t regret. In this scene, it’s pretty clear that he’s consciously decided to obey Erwin despite not knowing what’s going on—if you ask me, I think he does that because he’s felt he won’t regret it, whatever the results may turn out to be. If that’s not trust, I don’t know what is.

・Spinoff Problems

These are some very legit continuity errors pointed out about A Choice With No Regrets. Indeed it’s up to every individual’s choice whether or not these should be considered canon material, though I feel that there’s too much animosity here to consider the post neutral. It’s hard to take something supposedly official seriously if it has mistakes, granted, but one error doesn’t doom a whole work. And while the OP’s suspicions are reasonable, it may still be too early to throw the towel in on this one yet.

On another note, though, saying that the Eruri shippers only got more hardcore about the issue of trust once word of the spinoff came out is a bit of an insult—contest my observations if I’m mistaken, but spinoff or no spinoff, that part of the ship dynamic seems to have always been there. Though perhaps the announcement of an official coverage of their thing may have turned them louder.

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ningen-suki:

3rd and last page of this particular section about Erwin and Levi. Continued on from where my last post left off

Isayama: Then in vol 18, when Levi tried to take over command of the mission and Erwin wouldn’t listen, Levi was a bit angry at Erwin’s behaviour. Levi’s line, “I trust your judgement,” had a bit of an angry, “If something happens, this is your responsibility,” mixed with it. And right after, when he broke up Eren and Jean’s fight by using more violence than was necessary, it was actually Levi taking out that anger on them (laughs).

—That was very unfortunate for Eren and Jean (laughs). But the fact that Levi can take his emotions out on his new squad, you could say it’s because he has such a familiarity with them.

Isayama: They don’t treat him like a monster, so I think he feels a trust for his new squad that he’s never had before. 

[TN: So Levi didn’t have as much trust for his old squad as he does for his new one? I wonder if his old squad looked up to him too much that it just put Levi under pressure in a bad way]

Levi noticed Erwin’s unexpected intentions, had just said farewell to Kenny, so he must have been feeling a sense of loss. And his new squad may have buried that crevice in his heart. That’s why in vol 17, even though he was punched by Historia, there was a bit of “You worked hard” and “You’ve done well” mixed in with his “Thank you”.

—That scene with Levi’s smile was a truly warm scene. And Levi’s liege, Erwin, begins pushing forward to solve the mystery of the titans.

Isayama: His unconscious dream became a conscious one, and as a human, the stable side of him was present even more than before. But even so, Erwin is not the kind of person who prioritizes his own dream. He follows through with his responsibilities, and when the time comes Erwin is able to give up on his dream and make the best decision. 

If we were to compare, Erwin is a character in a similar position to Armin. Armin is chasing a dream that is pure and fresh, while Erwin’s is drenched with something very personal, you could say. 

His father was killed because of a slip of his own tongue. He had delusions of a sort in response to that, and acted to achieve his own private goals. But before he knew it, he was at the top of the scouting legion and giving orders to subordinates. There was a part of him asking himself, “What am I even doing this for”. He was a paradox, a self-contradiction. So when he faced his subordinates, telling them, ‘for the sake of humanity’s future’, he felt like he was lying to them. He has been struggling with these conflicts and anguish all along the way.

ningen-suki:

Here’s the first and second page, thank you to @b00kcake for the easy-to-read scans! More coming soon.

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—In the Uprising Arc, we start to see some subtle changes in Erwin and Levi’s relationship, don’t we?

Isayama: In American hero comics, they write about conflicts in relation to the phrase, ‘With great power comes great responsibility’. In Levi’s case, if he didn’t have any power, he would just be a normal person without any responsibilities. But because he has power, he has become a person who is burdened with too much responsibility.

Levi himself realized this when Kenny said, “Everyone is a slave to something,” and asked him, “What about you?”. He is a slave to his own power. He felt a sense of duty: “I have to become a hero.”

…This can be said about Mikasa as well… The Ackermans serve their liege, so there are many of them who are able to exert their power to the utmost maximum.

—Huh?? (surprise) That’s information that hasn’t even been revealed in the story! It’s true that for Mikasa there is Eren, and for Kenny there was Uri. They both have a ‘liege-like’ presence in their lives…

Isayama: For Levi, that person is Erwin. He has acknowledged Erwin as an existence who he looks up to. It’s part of the Ackerman bloodline, or an instinctive part of them, you could say.

—I-I see… (surprise). Levi maintaining his surroundings and distance, and the way he avoids facing those who wander in, it’s all because of the huge power he possesses?

Isayama: He may have been scared of building deep relationships. Since he is living in a world where he doesn’t know when he’ll be eaten by a titan, he avoided having people he considered his family.

—Being the only one left as everyone dies around him… the pain he would feel. But even this Levi was able to build a parent-like, close relationship with his new squad.

Isayama: There are a few causes for this change in Levi, and one of them was when he realized Erwin’s intentions. In vol 13, when it was revealed that Ragako Village’s inhabitants had been turned into titans, Erwin smiled. Erwin smiled because he was thinking, “I was right all along”. But to Levi, Erwin is the person who once said to him, “let’s save humanity together”. So in that moment, Levi thought, “Isn’t that different to what he said before?” (laughs)

—It was a great surprise to him (laughs). So I wonder if Levi can accept Erwin’s intentions, then.

Isayama: Around the time of vol 13, Levi wanted to say to Erwin something like, “You’ve been hiding this from me, haven’t you.” But he just gradually stopped… He wasn’t doubting Erwin. It was more like, he felt Erwin was mysterious. This person who he considers to be an existence that is above himself, that there is still so much that he doesn’t know about him. And he realized that same person has been acting all this time with a motive that is childlike. He was interested and reacted with, “Well, it can’t be helped, I’ll help you with it then.”

[TN: fuck fuck fuck I didn’t even know that, how can people fucking deny that they’re equals?! Levi thought of Erwin as someone higher than him and yet he realized in that moment that no, Erwin is actually a child at heart with childlike dreams. And Levi didn’t doubt him, instead he wanted to go along with him. Fuck fuck fuck]

Then in vol 18, when Levi tried to take over command of the mission and Erwin wouldn’t listen, Levi was a bit angry at Erwin’s behavior. Levi’s line, “I trust your judgement,” had a bit of an angry, “If something happens, this is your responsibility,” mixed with it. And right after, when he broke up Eren and Jean’s fight by using more violence than was necessary, it was actually Levi taking out that anger on them (laughs).

inali:

bitcherovas:

daloy-politsey:

exhighfunctioning:

daloy-politsey:

What she says: I’m fine

What she means: Why isn’t it taught that abortion was perfectly legal in the US in early 1870s and it wasn’t until a Jewish doctor, who was being framed, was put on trial for manslaughter (a trial, as well as the press covering it, which was greatly tinged with antisemitism) that opened the floodgates for antiabortion crusaders which eventually led to its criminalization?

I did not know this!

Me neither, until I read this book.

Look at the notes for the name of the book if anyone else is interested.

The book is called Bad Rabbi: And Other Strange but True Stories from the Yiddish Press. By Eddy Portnoy

Other recommended books in the notes that talk about this are:

The Moral Property of Sex by Linda Gordon

Rereading Sex by Helen Horowitz